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Cerner is on job cutting spree as per the Neal's email to his Managers. Because of the failue of Manager to control its employees and the work. The main reason is Mangers job in Cerner (especially Cerner India) is to kiss bosses a**** (as mentioned by the Cerner India's senior most manager to its employees at Level 6). Manager who is succesful in doing so succeeds in gaining promotion and salary increment. There are instances in past 7 years in Cerner. Why did Mr. Paul Black leave Cerner HQ? What Julie Wilson and her team is doing about complaints from India? Why Cerner staff leaving Cerner jobs in India? Those who complained over 1HELP why no action is taken?

Cerner's management including 3 founders members are hypocrites. They are aware of the probles at lower level but not concerned.

Cerner India: Don't expect any help from Julie Wilson. She's just like one of the guys (???) and two brothers are also Execs at Cerner. If you are having trouble with management or executives, no where to turn. Julie Wilson (Chief People Officer -ha ha) protects her own and heads up HR.

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So what type of severance package was offered?
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BULLETIN!!! Just in case you haven't heard: Everybody's meeting up for a big "WE'RE FINALLY FREE...NO PITY PARTY" ;)this Friday at Ameristar Casino. (Former and Current Cerner employees welcome) The party will be in the AMERISPORTS BREW and PUB this Friday, Jan. 18m at 5pm. This is a big (and nice) sports bar, but, get there early unless you don't mind standing. Of course, the Ron White "Blue Collar Comedy Tour" is also being held at the casino that night, so expect it to be a wild and crazy time. We'll toast, do a little networking, and , oh yeah...eat lots of pizza, as a very "special guest" does the greatest Neal impression while reciting Neal's infamous "Pizza e-Mail!" You don't want to miss this ;))). So, come for the FUN!!! Hey, it's a Friday, right? For more info contact Dave, the manager at the sports bar and grill. You don't want to hear about this from all of your friends that are going to be there... You need to be there!
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( Laid-off song lyrics )
NO PITY PARTY HERE

1: I was working hard at hardly working,
just another typical day,
when I got the word she wants to see me
when I go to pick up my pay.
Well, it's rare I'm called into the office;
then she has me close the door.
When I heard the words I'm being let go,
then my jaw almost hit the floor.

CHORUS:
There'll be no pity party, no pity party here.
No time or room for worry, anxiety or fear.
There'll be no pity party.
I'm going to have some fun
discovering what might lie ahead,
what's next beyond the sun.

2: I could say I never saw it coming.
I could kick and scream in surprise.
When, in truth, I'd wanted to be leaving,
but I thought the choice would be mine.
She could say the operation's changing
and that I'd done nothing that's wrong.
Deep inside I know I'm pulling the strings
and it's my doing all along.
CHORUS:

BRIDGE:
This is not a blessing in disguise.
To me there's no disguise at all.
What happened helped me to actualize
where I didn't think I had the balls.

3: And now, opportunity's come knocking,
'though it's sooner than I had planned.
And if some of my foundation's rocking,
then it's time for me to expand.
It has been high time for my beginning
to be doing what I'm here for,
and to make the most of all of my life
that I hear knocking at the door.
CHORUS:

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For what it's worth, here's my limited perspective. I worked at Cerner for two years in marketing, a department not highly valued. As a 10-year professional, I came to Cerner fully aware of its reputation, but I needed to leave publishing, and a new title/skillset would help open my options. So, off I went. I did my time, took some new steps, and kicked the company to the curb before it could do the same to me. Now I have a great new job at a place that actually values its employees. Go figure. There are a number of Cerner refugees there, and we constantly joke about how we need some sort of therapy to cope with a corporate environment in which we have time to think and plan, to collaborate meaningfully without some random panic item derailing our week, and to go home to our families at a reasonable hour, our dignity intact.

In my time at Cerner, here's what I learned:

1. There are people who care. This is perhaps the greatest tragedy. Good, hard-working (often clinical) people who believe(d) in Cerner's vision are now stuck selling/developing solutions that rank near the bottom among their competitors.

2. The 80% of new hires straight from college metric is true. And Cerner's clients don't really appreciate that.

3. Neal's brilliant. Hard to argue with that. And he's also a raging egomaniac with the people skills of a drunken fascist. I loved how he was afraid of having the smaller audience for his keynote at the Cerner Health Conference, so he moved Senator Kerry to a different day. I also loved how he used the company resources to cater to his personal projects.

4. The company STRONGLY encourages that employees change roles frequently, presumably to keep them from accumulating enough expertise in a given role to justify a significant pay increase. I changed roles once, and my workload doubled without any pay increase. In fact, for that hourly rate (I regularly put in 60- to 70-hour weeks, which is still not as much as what other people endure), I could've managed a convenience store. As an assistant. And been happier.

5. In my department, the poverty of leadership at the executive level was astounding. It was bad enough that the rest of the company crapped on us. Worse that our own execs did likewise.

6. Planning is meaningless. You can plan all you want, but when the next shiny object appears, it goes right out the window. All wasted work.

I had my final moment of epiphany when, after a 70-hour week traveling and working, I spent my weekend working on my 2008 plan (snapping at my daughter in the process). I come to work Monday only to find a new template waiting, and more work to redo on said plan. Then we get more template instructions at 5 pm, with a demand to submit by 8 am the next day. That was it for me. My wife and child deserve better than to have me come home angry and bitter every night. I deserve better. We all do.

There are a lot of people at that company about whom I care. Good, hard-working people. To them, I say this: Get out. Life can and will be better. Reclaim your soul.

I had a friend once tell me after a layoff (at a different company) that it's like those bad nuclear war movies of the 80s. Who has it worse, the people who are killed in the initial blast or the poor souls who are left behind to die a slow, miserable death? I'd feel sorry for those whom Cerner let go, but in reality, they'll be better off for it.

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  • 1/16/2008 8:44 PM
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Average age of layed off employees is 44 years. This is in a company where the average age of all employees is 29 years old.
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All these posts are so true. I worked for Cerner for almost 3 years and within a year majority of my starting class had quit. Cerner doesnt retain talent, but rather replace it with another eager college grad. I landed at one of the Big 5 consulting firms and we can use some talented Cerner employees in our firm. if interested contact: quietstorm3608@yahoo.com
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I worked at Cerner for almost 5 years and seemed every few years we saw the same thing. First it is the 21 day notices where they tell high paying clinical staff to either find another position or see you later. This happened to a large number of staff in 2003. Cerner has a history of getting rid of highly paid, highly skilled and older workers who use lots of healtcare. If I were a lawyer I would be getting a list together of candidates over the years who have legitimate complaints regarding there HR practices. Not to mention their unwritten rule where all employees must work 48 hours a week so they can charge customers more, which they will undoubtedly deny. I just hate to see the associates who have always believed in the Cerner vision and were there from the start get caught up in the middle of this. But unfortunately they were the older, higher paid and used more healthcare than others so they got the axe.

Other insane practices by Neil to me that makes no sense is forcing all associates to move to KC. Some that traveled 100% of the time. They lost very skilled clinical staff and what happens after they leave they change the policy and start hiring older inexperienced clinical staff to replace them. Because of the huge complaints in younger inexpericned workers. I just love the statement that says we will be actively recuriting for more positions in the future. Sure why not, they can hire them for half as much now. Give them little vacation and control every moment of their life at Cerner. Soon they too will see the light!

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  • 1/17/2008 8:28 AM
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BULLETIN!!! Just in case you haven't heard: Everybody's meeting up for a big "WE'RE FINALLY FREE...NO PITY PARTY" ;)this Friday at Ameristar Casino. (Former and Current Cerner employees welcome) The party will be in the AMERISPORTS BREW and PUB this Friday, Jan. 18m at 5pm. This is a big (and nice) sports bar, but, get there early unless you don't mind standing. Of course, the Ron White "Blue Collar Comedy Tour" is also being held at the casino that night, so expect it to be a wild and crazy time. We'll toast, do a little networking, and , oh yeah...eat lots of pizza, as a very "special guest" does the greatest Neal impression while reciting Neal's infamous "Pizza e-Mail!" You don't want to miss this ;))). So, come for the FUN!!! Hey, it's a Friday, right? For more info contact Dave, the manager at the sports bar and grill. You don't want to hear about this from all of your friends that are going to be there... You need to be there!
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Cerner processes all insurance claims internally and tracks how much they are paying for each individual employee. I am certain that my medical expenses contributed to my layoff. Rather ironic that a "health" company punishes you for using the health care system.
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